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> Are you recently engaged? Are you finding it hard to plan your > wedding? Would you ever consider hiring a wedding planner? > If so, E! Style television would like to hear from you. Please email > some details about when you’re getting married and why you could use a > wedding planner.
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Are you recently engaged? Are you finding it hard to plan your wedding? Would you ever consider hiring a wedding planner? If so, E! Style television would like to hear from you. Please email some details about when you’re getting married and why you could use a wedding planner.
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My wife is finally starting up her Event planning business. She’s been planning events for years and years but always for corporations and is now starting her own company to plan things for consumers like weddings, parties, etc. If interested, the website is www.eventartistry.net
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> My wife is finally starting up her Event planning business. She’s been
planning events for years > and years but always for corporations and is now starting her own company to plan things for > consumers like weddings, parties, etc.
How romantic, a wedding at Dave and Busters! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Hi there, My partner and me are going on holiday to Melbourne in Feb 2004, we will be staying with relatives but we wish to get married while we are there. We are struggling to find a wedding venue as the travelagent can not organise a wedding in melbourne. Anyone any ideas or have done this before, we are from the uk? — Regards Simon
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Hire a wedding coordinator if you want something fancy. Or be prepared for lots of long distance phone calls to arrange it yourself. Or just plan an uncomplicated simple civil service wedding and an elegant dinner out at a posh restaurant afterwards. Or look for one of those "destination wedding" companies — I don’t know anything about them but there are some that advertise on wedding web sites. Or contact a very nice hotel where you’re going and ask the concierge for assistance — some of the very high class/$$$$$$ ones will organize the entire event for you.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My partner and me are going on holiday to Melbourne in Feb 2004, we will be > staying with relatives but we wish to get married while we are there. > We are struggling to find a wedding venue as the travelagent can not > organise a wedding in melbourne. > Anyone any ideas or have done this before, we are from the uk?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi there, > My partner and me are going on holiday to Melbourne in Feb 2004, we will be > staying with relatives but we wish to get married while we are there. > We are struggling to find a wedding venue as the travelagent can not > organise a wedding in melbourne. > Anyone any ideas or have done this before, we are from the uk? > — > Regards > Simon
Change travel agents. most can find out lots of information of hotels that host weddings. Also most travel agents can reserve the hall for you. When it comes down to the catering and other details you might want to hire a wedding-planner or be prepared to do the phone calls yourself. Niki,
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Hi I suggest you have a look in the Yellow pages, www.yellowpages.com.au for a wedding planner who maybe able to assist you. naffi
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi there, > My partner and me are going on holiday to Melbourne in Feb 2004, we will > be > staying with relatives but we wish to get married while we are there. > We are struggling to find a wedding venue as the travelagent can not > organise a wedding in melbourne. > Anyone any ideas or have done this before, we are from the uk? > — > Regards > Simon > Change travel agents. most can find out lots of information of hotels that > host weddings. Also most travel agents can reserve the hall for you. > When it comes down to the catering and other details you might want to hire > a wedding-planner or be prepared to do the phone calls yourself. > Niki,
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Hi Simon, I found this web site on my own searches. It may help you with your plans, I don’t know how good they are but it may be worth a look. Good luck With your wedding and I hope all goes well when you visit my beautiful country. http://www.weddingsabroad.com/aust.htm http://www.wayoutweddings.com/ Steve
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"Simon Walton" wrote … > Hi there, > My partner and me are going on holiday to Melbourne in Feb 2004, we will be > staying with relatives but we wish to get married while we are there. > We are struggling to find a wedding venue as the travelagent can not > organise a wedding in melbourne. > Anyone any ideas or have done this before, we are from the uk?
Your rellies are of no help ?? I am from Melbourne http://directory.weddingcentral.com.au/vic http://www.brideonline.com.au/wedding-coordinators.htm http://www.i-do.com.au HTH.
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> I’m sorry you had such an awful experience.
Ditto. FWIW, We’ve had excellent experiences with Mitchell’s Formalwear (both north and south Tampa) and with the Men’s Wearhouse on Kennedy. I can recommend both of those. Donna
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Some advice for Tampa Bay area brides and grooms: Do NOT rent your tuxedos > from Frank’s Formalwear on Kennedy Boulevard in Tampa. Our experience there > was a nightmare. > The fifth, my stepfather’s tuxedo, didn’t even come close to > fitting properly. He went to pick it up on Thursday, a full 48 hours before > the wedding. When he tried it on in the store, he and Frank both agreed he > needed a different jacket (the one they’d given him was WAY too long). His > pants also needed to be altered and his vest was the wrong size. Frank > promised him he’d have everything ready the following day (Friday). > As you’ll soon discover, the day before the wedding is a hectic time for > everyone involved. As a result, my stepfather (who lives about a 45-minute > drive away from Frank’s) didn’t have time to pick up his tuxedo.
As a result, your stepfather didn’t try on his tuxedo. And it wasn’t right and he was not happy. Warning to prospective tuxedo renters: TRY ON THE THING IN THE STORE BEFORE YOU TAKE IT AWAY. Ann
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I’m sorry you had such an awful experience. I hope you make a statement with the Better Business Bureau (you can do this online now.) —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Some advice for Tampa Bay area brides and grooms: Do NOT rent your tuxedos > from Frank’s Formalwear on Kennedy Boulevard in Tampa. Our experience there > was a nightmare. > Frank and his employees convinced us to rent our tuxes from their shop > because they keep all their suits on-site, rather than having them shipped > in from a warehouse somewhere like most of the bigger stores (Sacino’s, > Mitchell’s, Mr. Formal, etc.) do. Because of this, Frank assured us that if > there were any problems (e.g. pants too long, jacket too big, wrong tie or > vest, etc.) with our tuxedos, he and his staff would be able to correct them > immediately by making alterations or replacing the suit altogether. It > sounded great in theory. > Frank’s also offers a "free" tuxedo rental if you pay for six. Since we had > nine (in addition to me, but I purchased my tux), it seemed like a nice > perk. > We started to worry during the weeks leading up to the wedding when Frank > and/or his employees (1) lost my tuxedo pants, which were supposed to have > been hemmed; (2) allowed several members of our wedding party to choose > their own color of vest and tie, even though we’d already specified exactly > what everyone would be wearing; (3) couldn’t locate two of the order tickets > for my groomsmen, which had already been filled out and presumably filed; > and (4) never called me back to let me know my vest and tie had arrived > three weeks late, even though I’d left five messages over the course of the > latter two weeks. > Sure enough, it got worse. Five of the 9 tuxedos we rented (most were > measured in the store, a couple of others had their measurements sent in) > did not fit properly. On four of the five, alterations were made as > promised. The fifth, my stepfather’s tuxedo, didn’t even come close to > fitting properly. He went to pick it up on Thursday, a full 48 hours before > the wedding. When he tried it on in the store, he and Frank both agreed he > needed a different jacket (the one they’d given him was WAY too long). His > pants also needed to be altered and his vest was the wrong size. Frank > promised him he’d have everything ready the following day (Friday). > As you’ll soon discover, the day before the wedding is a hectic time for > everyone involved. As a result, my stepfather (who lives about a 45-minute > drive away from Frank’s) didn’t have time to pick up his tuxedo. Instead, he > asked if one of my groomsmen could pick it up for him and he’d get it that > night at the rehearsal dinner. No problem. > The following day as I was getting dressed for the ceremony, I recieved a > frantic telephone call from my mother, who said my stepfather’s tuxedo HAD > NOT BEEN ALTERED. The pants had actually been hemmed, but the jacket was > exactly the same (way too long) and the vest hadn’t been replaced with the > correct size. > I called Frank’s immediately. Even though it was during their normal > business hours, I couldn’t get a human being on the phone — only an > answering machine. I left an angry message, of course. Repated attempts to > contact the store were fruitless. My stepdad had to wear a regular business > suit instead. > Not the end of the world, of course, but it certainly looks odd in our > wedding photos (and, no doubt, to our guests that day) that everyone is > dressed in a tuxedo except my stepfather. > After returning from our honeymoon, I dropped by Frank’s to discuss the > situation. As usual Frank didn’t recognize me, even though I’d been in his > shop countless times over the past couple of months. When I started > explaining the situation to him, he immediately became defensive and cut me > off to tell me "his side of the story," as if that was what really mattered. > He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather had > originally been measured at another formalwear shop. I told him that > argument doesn’t hold water because he assured us he could fix any problems > immediately, and we gave him 48 hours. > He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather didn’t > act like it was a big deal when the original jacket was too long. He said he > didn’t in fact "promise" he would replace the jacket, he only said he would > try. (My stepfather and mother say this is a lie, that he definitely > promised.) > He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather didn’t > try it on Friday night instead of Saturday. I told him we’d assumed he made > the alterations and replacements that he gave his word he would make. He > said he couldn’t replace the jacket because it was an uncommon size and he > didn’t have any left in the store. I asked him why he didn’t call us on > Friday to let us know. (My stepdad says he promised he would call the > following day either way.) He told me he tried to call but got an answering > machine. Did he leave a message? No, because he said he has a policy against > leaving messages on machines. > He has a policy against it?! OK, whatever. > My mom checked her Caller ID and said, no, in fact he did not call. When we > told him this, he said, "Well, I used my cell phone." When we explained that > cell phones still show up on Caller ID, he said, "Yeah, but people never > recognize my cell phone number." > Whatever. > He claimed he had proof that he’d called and he made some bizarre allusion > to having recordings of all our conversations and witnesses, and so forth > and so on. > By this time, I was fed up and I told him I wasn’t leaving his store without > a full refund for the tuxedo rental. He, of course, refused. "You’re not > leaving here with your money," he said. > At this point he noticed on the ticket that my stepfather’s tuxedo JUST > HAPPENED TO BE THE FREE TUXEDO. Because it was the seventh order ticket they > filled out on the day we originally ordered our tuxedos, it ended up being > the free one. He immediately latched on to the idea that because "it was > free in the first place," there was simply no way he could possibly give me > a refund. When I tried to explain the sheer chicanery of such a notion, he > refused to listen to me anymore and started bustling around the shop looking > for something. Eventually he emerged from behind the counter with a tattered > old newspaper article from some local weekly shopper that profiled his > business. He presented it as proof that he was an honest businessman who’d > been in the formalwear industry for a long time and blah blah blah. > I finally realized I was never going to get through to him and left. It > simply wasn’t worth the hassle, which I’m sure is exactly what he was aiming > for. He’d gotten my money and that’s all he cared about. > Don’t let him get yours
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Some advice for Tampa Bay area brides and grooms: Do NOT rent your tuxedos from Frank’s Formalwear on Kennedy Boulevard in Tampa. Our experience there was a nightmare. Frank and his employees convinced us to rent our tuxes from their shop because they keep all their suits on-site, rather than having them shipped in from a warehouse somewhere like most of the bigger stores (Sacino’s, Mitchell’s, Mr. Formal, etc.) do. Because of this, Frank assured us that if there were any problems (e.g. pants too long, jacket too big, wrong tie or vest, etc.) with our tuxedos, he and his staff would be able to correct them immediately by making alterations or replacing the suit altogether. It sounded great in theory. Frank’s also offers a "free" tuxedo rental if you pay for six. Since we had nine (in addition to me, but I purchased my tux), it seemed like a nice perk. We started to worry during the weeks leading up to the wedding when Frank and/or his employees (1) lost my tuxedo pants, which were supposed to have been hemmed; (2) allowed several members of our wedding party to choose their own color of vest and tie, even though we’d already specified exactly what everyone would be wearing; (3) couldn’t locate two of the order tickets for my groomsmen, which had already been filled out and presumably filed; and (4) never called me back to let me know my vest and tie had arrived three weeks late, even though I’d left five messages over the course of the latter two weeks. Sure enough, it got worse. Five of the 9 tuxedos we rented (most were measured in the store, a couple of others had their measurements sent in) did not fit properly. On four of the five, alterations were made as promised. The fifth, my stepfather’s tuxedo, didn’t even come close to fitting properly. He went to pick it up on Thursday, a full 48 hours before the wedding. When he tried it on in the store, he and Frank both agreed he needed a different jacket (the one they’d given him was WAY too long). His pants also needed to be altered and his vest was the wrong size. Frank promised him he’d have everything ready the following day (Friday). As you’ll soon discover, the day before the wedding is a hectic time for everyone involved. As a result, my stepfather (who lives about a 45-minute drive away from Frank’s) didn’t have time to pick up his tuxedo. Instead, he asked if one of my groomsmen could pick it up for him and he’d get it that night at the rehearsal dinner. No problem. The following day as I was getting dressed for the ceremony, I recieved a frantic telephone call from my mother, who said my stepfather’s tuxedo HAD NOT BEEN ALTERED. The pants had actually been hemmed, but the jacket was exactly the same (way too long) and the vest hadn’t been replaced with the correct size. I called Frank’s immediately. Even though it was during their normal business hours, I couldn’t get a human being on the phone — only an answering machine. I left an angry message, of course. Repated attempts to contact the store were fruitless. My stepdad had to wear a regular business suit instead. Not the end of the world, of course, but it certainly looks odd in our wedding photos (and, no doubt, to our guests that day) that everyone is dressed in a tuxedo except my stepfather. After returning from our honeymoon, I dropped by Frank’s to discuss the situation. As usual Frank didn’t recognize me, even though I’d been in his shop countless times over the past couple of months. When I started explaining the situation to him, he immediately became defensive and cut me off to tell me "his side of the story," as if that was what really mattered. He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather had originally been measured at another formalwear shop. I told him that argument doesn’t hold water because he assured us he could fix any problems immediately, and we gave him 48 hours. He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather didn’t act like it was a big deal when the original jacket was too long. He said he didn’t in fact "promise" he would replace the jacket, he only said he would try. (My stepfather and mother say this is a lie, that he definitely promised.) He said it was our fault the tuxedo didn’t fit because my stepfather didn’t try it on Friday night instead of Saturday. I told him we’d assumed he made the alterations and replacements that he gave his word he would make. He said he couldn’t replace the jacket because it was an uncommon size and he didn’t have any left in the store. I asked him why he didn’t call us on Friday to let us know. (My stepdad says he promised he would call the following day either way.) He told me he tried to call but got an answering machine. Did he leave a message? No, because he said he has a policy against leaving messages on machines. He has a policy against it?! OK, whatever. My mom checked her Caller ID and said, no, in fact he did not call. When we told him this, he said, "Well, I used my cell phone." When we explained that cell phones still show up on Caller ID, he said, "Yeah, but people never recognize my cell phone number." Whatever. He claimed he had proof that he’d called and he made some bizarre allusion to having recordings of all our conversations and witnesses, and so forth and so on. By this time, I was fed up and I told him I wasn’t leaving his store without a full refund for the tuxedo rental. He, of course, refused. "You’re not leaving here with your money," he said. At this point he noticed on the ticket that my stepfather’s tuxedo JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE FREE TUXEDO. Because it was the seventh order ticket they filled out on the day we originally ordered our tuxedos, it ended up being the free one. He immediately latched on to the idea that because "it was free in the first place," there was simply no way he could possibly give me a refund. When I tried to explain the sheer chicanery of such a notion, he refused to listen to me anymore and started bustling around the shop looking for something. Eventually he emerged from behind the counter with a tattered old newspaper article from some local weekly shopper that profiled his business. He presented it as proof that he was an honest businessman who’d been in the formalwear industry for a long time and blah blah blah. I finally realized I was never going to get through to him and left. It simply wasn’t worth the hassle, which I’m sure is exactly what he was aiming for. He’d gotten my money and that’s all he cared about. Don’t let him get yours
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are not *exactly* international, but my fiance and I live in Boston and I > am from Puerto Rico. All my family is there and I always wanted to get > married with my family in Puerto Rico. > I am planning the wedding from Boston, and I am having a lot of fun. There > are so many resources online!! It isn’t as hard as I thought. My sister > (MOH) and my mom has helped me a little, but I have made all the decisions, > I have talked to all the vendors and I have signed all the contracts. My mom > and sister have basically given me ideas, but not much more than that. > If you want your family to be in your wedding I say go for planning the > wedding in the US. Wedding planning is as hard as you want it to be. I am > sure you can plan a beautiful wedding without killing yourself of stress. > Hope this helps, > Karen
Karen, thank you for your post. It helps. 
You’re the first person who talks about planning a long-distance wedding in a positive way. Do you get overwhelmed with online resources? i’m not so familiar with reception places in the area where I’d hold it, and so many places have websites … are you doing to choose your location online without seeing it? What about your fiancee’s family? Are they all flying to Puerto Rico? thanks for writing. hope to hear from you again. Mia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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We are not *exactly* international, but my fiance and I live in Boston and I am from Puerto Rico. All my family is there and I always wanted to get married with my family in Puerto Rico. I am planning the wedding from Boston, and I am having a lot of fun. There are so many resources online!! It isn’t as hard as I thought. My sister (MOH) and my mom has helped me a little, but I have made all the decisions, I have talked to all the vendors and I have signed all the contracts. My mom and sister have basically given me ideas, but not much more than that. If you want your family to be in your wedding I say go for planning the wedding in the US. Wedding planning is as hard as you want it to be. I am sure you can plan a beautiful wedding without killing yourself of stress. Hope this helps, Karen
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Regina, It sounds like you had exactly what you wanted. Thanks for sharing your experience. I really dislike the "clerks office" idea…there is nothing special or nice about marrying in an office without anyone to see it, plus I don’t see why everyone has to get married the same way…but I do know that it is necessary. What I didn’t know was that we could get married in the u.s and then get married in the church here. That is a new twist that i’ll have to consider. Thanks for the info! Mia
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Mia, > I’m a German, who got married to an Aussie in Australia last year. We didn’t > plan the wedding before I came out to Australia, in fact he proposed to me > in September ‘01 and we got married in November ‘01. We only had a small > wedding for about 15 people (no one from my family attended). > Btw, you have to have a wedding at a clerks office in Germany before you can > have a church wedding. There is no way around it unless you get married in > the US. > Our wedding was put together fairly quick and easy – first we had to find a > celebrant as you had to give a note of intend to marry about 30 days before > you plan to do so. So we set the date (we actually got married on a Monday, > a bit uncommon but much cheaper and easier to put together in such a short > amount of time) and then planned around it. We found a nice restaurant, a > person to make the cake, the florist, photographer and video artist in about > 2 weeks. For us the video was very important because atleast my family back > in Germany could experience the wedding for themselves. As they don’t speak > any English we had the video subtitled by the same people who video’d the > wedding. It worked out quite well, and we were more than happy with the > whole wedding. > Regards, > Regina.
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Hi Mia, I’m a German, who got married to an Aussie in Australia last year. We didn’t plan the wedding before I came out to Australia, in fact he proposed to me in September ‘01 and we got married in November ‘01. We only had a small wedding for about 15 people (no one from my family attended). Btw, you have to have a wedding at a clerks office in Germany before you can have a church wedding. There is no way around it unless you get married in the US. Our wedding was put together fairly quick and easy – first we had to find a celebrant as you had to give a note of intend to marry about 30 days before you plan to do so. So we set the date (we actually got married on a Monday, a bit uncommon but much cheaper and easier to put together in such a short amount of time) and then planned around it. We found a nice restaurant, a person to make the cake, the florist, photographer and video artist in about 2 weeks. For us the video was very important because atleast my family back in Germany could experience the wedding for themselves. As they don’t speak any English we had the video subtitled by the same people who video’d the wedding. It worked out quite well, and we were more than happy with the whole wedding. Regards, Regina.
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I moved from the U.S to Germany to live with my then boyfriend last July (2001). This past August, he proposed to me and I accepted. I was happy for about 5 minutes until I realized I’d either have to 1) plan a wedding here without most of my family and friends, or 2) try to plan a wedding in the U.S from Germany. I went with option two, at first — but it was too stressful to try to plan a wedding from here, simple or not, and a wedding planner is not in our budget. Relying on family members to plan details is also out of the question. So, Plan 2 – get married here in Germany…easier for me, less expensive, more my style. (but have you seen the paperwork involved? and if it’s not a church wedding, you have to marry at a government office.) We thought we could have a small ceremony in both places — again, this caused problems with planning two weddings, two expenses, expensive flights, no honeymoon, etc. In any case, I’m hoping that someone out there has been in my situation and lived to tell about it. I would appreciate any common experiences from international couples, how you solved the dilemma, how your family reacted, and even how you found a good place to register when most of your family lives in another country! Many many thanks, Mia
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My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on Royal Caribbean or Carnival. I have been on 3 of Carnivals but never RC any info or suggestions greatly appreciated
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>My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on >Royal Caribbean or Carniva
If she decides on Carnival then she should choose either the Carnival Spirit, Pride or Legend as they have wedding chappel’s aboard. Call Carnivals 800 # and get directed to the Wedding Package Dept. They have different packages to chose from. Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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>If she decides on Carnival then she should choose either the Carnival Spirit, >Pride or Legend as they have wedding chappel’s aboard
Hi Dianne, Unless it has changed recently, you can get married on all of Carnival’s ships. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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> My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on > Royal Caribbean or Carnival. I have been on 3 of Carnivals but never RC any > info or suggestions greatly appreciated
We had a terrific experience with RCL’s Royal Romance program while on a Grandeur cruise. Our son was married at the Emerald Beach Resort in St. Thomas. Transportation and ship’s photographer were included. We booked a room for the day for $50 through Fantasia Weddings (you could book a package direct with them; they perform the Royal Romance weddings). We had a gorgeous beach almost to ourselves and use of resort facilities. — Bill Bugge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Unless it has changed recently, you can get married on all of >Carnival’s ships
I know Ray but only the Spirit Class has Wedding Chapels Aboard. On their other ships the Ceromony is in one of the Public Rooms, Ex. Disco Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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> > Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but > I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to > start doings weddings at sea. > Carnival was thinking about it at one time but it never happened. The new > ships like the Spirit and Pride have pretty nice wedding chapels but all > weddings are still done in port.
The Carnival Spirit offers weddings at sea but only on its Alaskan Itinerary. Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises and Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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Checkout Storybook Weddings in Florida….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of > the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern > itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
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>The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married >in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you >attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship.
Hi Michael, FWIW, almost every cruise line sailing from a US port offers this service. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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In addition to that, there are several "Wedding Planners" in Florida that will set it all up including photographers and any land arrangements that may be required. Walmart offers a Wedding Cake service but I am not going to suggest that cause Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married >in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you >attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship. >Hi Michael, >FWIW, almost every cruise line sailing from a US port offers this >service. >Best regards, >Ray
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Yes, Princess stresses weddings are legal under laws of Bermuda. My first wedding was in Italy. I can tell you from the divorce in California that this state felt just fine with the legalities of a wedding outside the state(s). I have the legal bills to prove it, and this was 18 years ago Regards, Keith
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Carnival has done onboard weddings (while at dock) for quite some time. Got my brother-in-law married on the Elation 3 years ago Regards, Keith
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>Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but >I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to >start doings weddings at sea.
Hi Lee, I thought I had read that in one of the press releases. The Carnival Spirit and Pride press releases mentioned that they had a wedding chapels but I don’t know if the captain performs the wedding at sea. They may just use it in port. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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> Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but > I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to > start doings weddings at sea.
Carnival was thinking about it at one time but it never happened. The new ships like the Spirit and Pride have pretty nice wedding chapels but all weddings are still done in port. — George in PA Countryside Travel www.CruiseMaster.com
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My daughter is going to be married on the Pride next yr. They do have a chapel and the wedding is performed by a justice of the peace brought aboard just for the wedding . The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but >I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to >start doings weddings at sea. > Hi Lee, > I thought I had read that in one of the press releases. The Carnival > Spirit and Pride press releases mentioned that they had a wedding > chapels but I don’t know if the captain performs the wedding at sea. > They may just use it in port. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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wrotM: >By what countries, Ray? What US states? Have you double-checked with INS >about this? Might be worth a look.
Hi Daniel, Several years ago when the Grand Princess was inaugurated, Princess issued all of this information. At the time they were the only cruise line where a marriage could be performed by the captain. They made a big deal out of this and it has been very popular with several marriages performed every day on their sailings. Since then the captain has been performing many marriages every week. They are valid in the US but I don’t know about other countries. If you would like to follow up with Princess I am sure they would be glad to provide this info to you. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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>Weddings on board >certain Princess ships are performed by the captain and are officially >recognized.
By what countries, Ray? What US states? Have you double-checked with INS about this? Might be worth a look. Daniel Allen Butler (The Hammer) The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the management, but they ought to be!
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my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
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>my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of >the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern >itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
Yes, make sure that the wedding is performed by someone empowered to actually perform legally binding weddings. The tradition that a ship’s captain can perform weddings is just that–a tradition. The days when a captain could actually preside over a valid marriage ceremony went out the window at the end of the 19th Century–American immigration laws saw to that. He may officiate at a ceremony, but it is not recognized in the US (or any other country that I know of) as valid, legal and binding. Daniel Allen Butler (The Hammer) The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the management, but they ought to be!
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wrotM: > The tradition that a ship’s captain can >perform weddings is just that–a tradition. The days when a captain could >actually preside over a valid marriage ceremony went out the window at the end >of the 19th Century–American immigration laws saw to that. He may officiate >at a ceremony, but it is not recognized in the US (or any other country that I >know of) as valid, legal and binding.
Hi Daniel, You are going to have to join the 21st century. <g> Weddings on board certain Princess ships are performed by the captain and are officially recognized. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on Royal Caribbean or Carnival. I have been on 3 of Carnivals but never RC any info or suggestions greatly appreciated
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>My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on >Royal Caribbean or Carniva
If she decides on Carnival then she should choose either the Carnival Spirit, Pride or Legend as they have wedding chappel’s aboard. Call Carnivals 800 # and get directed to the Wedding Package Dept. They have different packages to chose from. Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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>If she decides on Carnival then she should choose either the Carnival Spirit, >Pride or Legend as they have wedding chappel’s aboard
Hi Dianne, Unless it has changed recently, you can get married on all of Carnival’s ships. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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> My sister is planning a wedding for November 2002 and trying to decide on > Royal Caribbean or Carnival. I have been on 3 of Carnivals but never RC any > info or suggestions greatly appreciated
We had a terrific experience with RCL’s Royal Romance program while on a Grandeur cruise. Our son was married at the Emerald Beach Resort in St. Thomas. Transportation and ship’s photographer were included. We booked a room for the day for $50 through Fantasia Weddings (you could book a package direct with them; they perform the Royal Romance weddings). We had a gorgeous beach almost to ourselves and use of resort facilities. — Bill Bugge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Unless it has changed recently, you can get married on all of >Carnival’s ships
I know Ray but only the Spirit Class has Wedding Chapels Aboard. On their other ships the Ceromony is in one of the Public Rooms, Ex. Disco Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
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>my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of >the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern >itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
Yes, make sure that the wedding is performed by someone empowered to actually perform legally binding weddings. The tradition that a ship’s captain can perform weddings is just that–a tradition. The days when a captain could actually preside over a valid marriage ceremony went out the window at the end of the 19th Century–American immigration laws saw to that. He may officiate at a ceremony, but it is not recognized in the US (or any other country that I know of) as valid, legal and binding. Daniel Allen Butler (The Hammer) The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the management, but they ought to be!
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wrotM: > The tradition that a ship’s captain can >perform weddings is just that–a tradition. The days when a captain could >actually preside over a valid marriage ceremony went out the window at the end >of the 19th Century–American immigration laws saw to that. He may officiate >at a ceremony, but it is not recognized in the US (or any other country that I >know of) as valid, legal and binding.
Hi Daniel, You are going to have to join the 21st century. <g> Weddings on board certain Princess ships are performed by the captain and are officially recognized. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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>Weddings on board >certain Princess ships are performed by the captain and are officially >recognized.
By what countries, Ray? What US states? Have you double-checked with INS about this? Might be worth a look. Daniel Allen Butler (The Hammer) The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the management, but they ought to be!
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wrotM: >By what countries, Ray? What US states? Have you double-checked with INS >about this? Might be worth a look.
Hi Daniel, Several years ago when the Grand Princess was inaugurated, Princess issued all of this information. At the time they were the only cruise line where a marriage could be performed by the captain. They made a big deal out of this and it has been very popular with several marriages performed every day on their sailings. Since then the captain has been performing many marriages every week. They are valid in the US but I don’t know about other countries. If you would like to follow up with Princess I am sure they would be glad to provide this info to you. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Yes, Princess stresses weddings are legal under laws of Bermuda. My first wedding was in Italy. I can tell you from the divorce in California that this state felt just fine with the legalities of a wedding outside the state(s). I have the legal bills to prove it, and this was 18 years ago Regards, Keith
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Carnival has done onboard weddings (while at dock) for quite some time. Got my brother-in-law married on the Elation 3 years ago Regards, Keith
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>Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but >I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to >start doings weddings at sea.
Hi Lee, I thought I had read that in one of the press releases. The Carnival Spirit and Pride press releases mentioned that they had a wedding chapels but I don’t know if the captain performs the wedding at sea. They may just use it in port. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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> Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but > I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to > start doings weddings at sea.
Carnival was thinking about it at one time but it never happened. The new ships like the Spirit and Pride have pretty nice wedding chapels but all weddings are still done in port. — George in PA Countryside Travel www.CruiseMaster.com
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My daughter is going to be married on the Pride next yr. They do have a chapel and the wedding is performed by a justice of the peace brought aboard just for the wedding . The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but >I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to >start doings weddings at sea. > Hi Lee, > I thought I had read that in one of the press releases. The Carnival > Spirit and Pride press releases mentioned that they had a wedding > chapels but I don’t know if the captain performs the wedding at sea. > They may just use it in port. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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>The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married >in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you >attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship.
Hi Michael, FWIW, almost every cruise line sailing from a US port offers this service. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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In addition to that, there are several "Wedding Planners" in Florida that will set it all up including photographers and any land arrangements that may be required. Walmart offers a Wedding Cake service but I am not going to suggest that cause Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The wedding takes place before the boat sails , so you are actually married >in Port Canaveral. You can also have wedding guests who cannot sail with you >attend the wedding and reception and then leave the ship. >Hi Michael, >FWIW, almost every cruise line sailing from a US port offers this >service. >Best regards, >Ray
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Checkout Storybook Weddings in Florida….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my sister is planning her wedding day for November 2002 on the radiance of > the seas RC, and possibly photos on St.Thomas, doing the southern > itinerary,any suggestions or advise greatly appreciated
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> > Maybe I was thinking of one of the behemoth of the seas, but > I thought another cruise line (besides princess) was going to > start doings weddings at sea. > Carnival was thinking about it at one time but it never happened. The new > ships like the Spirit and Pride have pretty nice wedding chapels but all > weddings are still done in port.
The Carnival Spirit offers weddings at sea but only on its Alaskan Itinerary. Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises and Tours East Brunswick, NJ
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Hello, I was married in a Catholic church to a non-Catholic person. The church didn’t really care that my fianc
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> Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, > would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for
Not quite. Why don’t you look up the full fare economy fare, the fare that is generally paid by businesspeople, and compare that to first class. There is often not much difference between the two fares, and if you value those ‘features’ at $219, that’s often similar to the price that you actually would have to pay for them. > airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I > imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You > did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call > Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade!
Substantially more? Hardly. You just aren’t comparing equal fare classes or rights.
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>My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. >Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. >The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before >continuing to SFO.
Ah, probably a relation of the Honolulu jail for NZ pax continuing to LAX –==++AJC++==–
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yes – due to the FF issues, I have to go BA thru LHR and that takes a "bit" longer. Aeroflot goes direct, but then I’d have to PAY for it. ;-)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. > Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. > The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before > continuing to SFO. > I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both > ways). You just have > to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do > this before takeoff. > If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. > Michael > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > because of > > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > Nah – > > > not worth it. > > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > > half their age? > > — > > Weiyun > > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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Last year, due to FF, I couldn’t take BA to LHR. I did it with AA SFO-JFK-LHR, then BA LHR-SVO. Returned thru ORD. Of course, I had a 12 hour overnight in LHR on the return, so stayed at the HEathrow Hilton. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > yes – due to the FF issues, I have to go BA thru LHR and that takes a "bit" > longer. Aeroflot goes direct, but then I’d have to PAY for it. ;-) > My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. > Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. > The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before > continuing to SFO. > I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both > ways). You just have > to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do > this before takeoff. > If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. > Michael > > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because > the > > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again > since > > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before > in > > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for > your > > > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential > for > > > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > > because of > > > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > > Nah – > > > > not worth it. > > > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > > > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about > at > > > half their age? > > > — > > > Weiyun > > > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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> Especially since you don’t get there any quicker. Punctuality is still THE > most important factor. Now if they could somehow get the first class > passangers to their destination faster…..
You have your choice of the Concorde, or the new aircraft that Boeing’s working on for that one. cedric
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> First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that > you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. > UNLESS you’re flying first class on Air Jamaica out of Montego Bay, in which > case you’re treated just like everyone else when it comes time to board the > plane…from personal experience…
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My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before continuing to SFO. I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both ways). You just have to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do this before takeoff. If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > because of > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > Nah – > > not worth it. > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > half their age? > — > Weiyun > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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Especially since you don’t get there any quicker. Punctuality is still THE most important factor. Now if they could somehow get the first class passangers to their destination faster…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
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> First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach.
UNLESS you’re flying first class on Air Jamaica out of Montego Bay, in which case you’re treated just like everyone else when it comes time to board the plane…from personal experience…
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
[snip] Well, you mean pay full fare. No, ain’t gonna do it. Did upgrade once for 5000 miles which is ’bout $75-$150 depending upon what value you place on ‘em. For a 5+ hour domestic coast to coast flight, yeah, it was "worth" it. I’ll pay for it, I just won’t pay much.
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now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it. > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > half their age? > — > Weiyun > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max)
It may not be "worth it" to a lot of people, but if the airline didn’t make money on it, it wouldn’t be there.
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at half their age? — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for replies]
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aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – not worth it.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As an introduction, an unnamed airline provided the wrong equipment at the > gate; subsequently, the flight was oversold by 40 people. The airline couldn > ‘t get enough volunteers to get off the plane, so I, and about six others, > missed the flight. The airline put us first class (my one and only FC) on > the next available flight, and gave us each a $300 voucher. OK…it was CO. > As I promised my mom, I noted some differences between first class, and > steerage.I mean coach, because she’s never been FC either. I’ll try to > quantify each statement with a dollar value, to see if we can justify the > extra cost of first class. > First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. You > wait in line behind about 20 people instead. Much better. This is more > important the more you fly, so we’ll give it a one time value of $40. > You get to board before everyone else, so you don’t have to wait for the > same 200 people to stuff every bit of their personal belongings into an > overhead bin. Plus you can sneer at them as you walk onto the jet way. > Unfortunately, the caterers hadn’t finished with First Class yet, so Coach > boarded first for my flight. It was one of those days, so I tried not to be > disappointed. But still, I was a holder of a first class ticket! Give it > another $40. Maybe more. > Nice, wide, big, leather seats. This is good for those of us who have > trouble squeezing their fat butts in between the armrests in the regular > seats. A few more added pounds on me and I’ll be using Vaseline just to sit > down. Plus, the First Class seats recline further, and you have more room > for your legs, and more room for your feet. Could this possibly be > worth…one hundred dollars? Again, it would if you fly a lot, and it damn > sure would if you were on your way to Europe or Australia. > Upon boarding the plane, you are immediately served the beverage of your > choice. Free. No waiting for the plane to take off and level out and for the > waitresses to roll the beverage cart through. $10. > If you’re seated on the left side of the plane, you get to watch the jet way > pull away from the plane. This is only exciting if, one, you like airplanes > and airports, and two, if you’ve never seen it before. Save embarrassment > during your first First Class flight by not exclaiming loudly "look, there > goes the jet way!" Trust me on this. $10. > The flight attendants offer quicker, more personalized service. In fact, > they turn into complete sycophants, kneeling down and smiling as you make > your drink or food order. I changed my mind twice one time, just because I > knew I could. Priceless. > You save $4 for the movie, because you don’t have to rent the headphones as > you would in Coach. I was under the impression that you could choose which > movie you wanted to watch, but I must have been mistaken. On a side note, I > had to watch Chocolat, one of the most boring Oscar nominated movies ever > made. What a dud! I wish that the people that made that movie would have > watched The Milagro Beanfield War, one of Redford’s greatest directorial > achievements, or even last year’s winner, before they made this movie.worse, > though, was the movie that I had to watch on the way to Los Angeles, in > coach: The Wedding Planner. Ug. Actually, don’t tell anyone, but I kinda > like the J Lo. It could have been worse. $4. > The meals are a LOT better. I had a choice of either a hot ham and turkey > sandwich, with an Asian noodle soup, or a green salad with chicken. I had > the sandwich, and the soup was pretty damn good for being served on an > airplane. In fact, it would have been pretty damn good anywhere. But since > most of the airline food is no better or worse than the Budget Gourmet meals > that I occasionally eat, coach food doesn’t bother me. I only give this $5. > Ahhhhh..hot steamed towels, before dinner. I give this…a big fat 0 on the > dollar scale, but a 10 on the "stupidity" scale. Who cares! > Linen napkins with your meal. Another fatty. OK.fine.whatever.this, and the > towels, $10. > Choice of your better wines. This might be important, it might not. The wine > you usually get in coach comes with a screw off top and instructions on the > label: Serve Over Ice. In first class, the attendants walk around with a > fine bottle of wine, topping off your glass. A nervous flyer? Six bucks a > glass. Already took a Valium before you left the house? Zero dollars.don’t > mix Valium with alcohol, especially in a sealed metal tube hurtling through > the atmosphere. You’re just asking to get handcuffed with a zip tie. > All drinks, including alcohol, are free. You might think that this would be > worth a lot of money, if you count how many beers you could drink in three > hours (remember, you can start drinking as soon as you sit down, while the > 200 passengers in steerage are stowing their bags) and multiply that by $4, > then you might come up with a big number. $25? $50? Not likely. It’s illegal > to server an intoxicated passenger, and they’ll see me coming a mile away > and cut me off at four or so. Let’s give this $20..no, $24. See previous > paragraph. We already counted the wine at six bucks. > Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, > would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for > it. Jerry’s (My stepdad. We call him Thunder Thighs, and he tries to laugh.) > company should pay for it, because he’s at the executive level, and that way > he won’t have to take any Vaseline on the plane. > But, if you can afford it, and if you fly a lot, you can avoid a lot of > annoyances. Airline seats are TOO SMALL! You could go seriously ballistic if > you had to sit by the window, right by the jet engine and the loo, month > after month. And the waiting at the ticket gate and to get on and off the > airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I > imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You > did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call > Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade! > Did I leave anything out?
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As an introduction, an unnamed airline provided the wrong equipment at the gate; subsequently, the flight was oversold by 40 people. The airline couldn ‘t get enough volunteers to get off the plane, so I, and about six others, missed the flight. The airline put us first class (my one and only FC) on the next available flight, and gave us each a $300 voucher. OK…it was CO. As I promised my mom, I noted some differences between first class, and steerage.I mean coach, because she’s never been FC either. I’ll try to quantify each statement with a dollar value, to see if we can justify the extra cost of first class. First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. You wait in line behind about 20 people instead. Much better. This is more important the more you fly, so we’ll give it a one time value of $40. You get to board before everyone else, so you don’t have to wait for the same 200 people to stuff every bit of their personal belongings into an overhead bin. Plus you can sneer at them as you walk onto the jet way. Unfortunately, the caterers hadn’t finished with First Class yet, so Coach boarded first for my flight. It was one of those days, so I tried not to be disappointed. But still, I was a holder of a first class ticket! Give it another $40. Maybe more. Nice, wide, big, leather seats. This is good for those of us who have trouble squeezing their fat butts in between the armrests in the regular seats. A few more added pounds on me and I’ll be using Vaseline just to sit down. Plus, the First Class seats recline further, and you have more room for your legs, and more room for your feet. Could this possibly be worth…one hundred dollars? Again, it would if you fly a lot, and it damn sure would if you were on your way to Europe or Australia. Upon boarding the plane, you are immediately served the beverage of your choice. Free. No waiting for the plane to take off and level out and for the waitresses to roll the beverage cart through. $10. If you’re seated on the left side of the plane, you get to watch the jet way pull away from the plane. This is only exciting if, one, you like airplanes and airports, and two, if you’ve never seen it before. Save embarrassment during your first First Class flight by not exclaiming loudly "look, there goes the jet way!" Trust me on this. $10. The flight attendants offer quicker, more personalized service. In fact, they turn into complete sycophants, kneeling down and smiling as you make your drink or food order. I changed my mind twice one time, just because I knew I could. Priceless. You save $4 for the movie, because you don’t have to rent the headphones as you would in Coach. I was under the impression that you could choose which movie you wanted to watch, but I must have been mistaken. On a side note, I had to watch Chocolat, one of the most boring Oscar nominated movies ever made. What a dud! I wish that the people that made that movie would have watched The Milagro Beanfield War, one of Redford’s greatest directorial achievements, or even last year’s winner, before they made this movie.worse, though, was the movie that I had to watch on the way to Los Angeles, in coach: The Wedding Planner. Ug. Actually, don’t tell anyone, but I kinda like the J Lo. It could have been worse. $4. The meals are a LOT better. I had a choice of either a hot ham and turkey sandwich, with an Asian noodle soup, or a green salad with chicken. I had the sandwich, and the soup was pretty damn good for being served on an airplane. In fact, it would have been pretty damn good anywhere. But since most of the airline food is no better or worse than the Budget Gourmet meals that I occasionally eat, coach food doesn’t bother me. I only give this $5. Ahhhhh..hot steamed towels, before dinner. I give this…a big fat 0 on the dollar scale, but a 10 on the "stupidity" scale. Who cares! Linen napkins with your meal. Another fatty. OK.fine.whatever.this, and the towels, $10. Choice of your better wines. This might be important, it might not. The wine you usually get in coach comes with a screw off top and instructions on the label: Serve Over Ice. In first class, the attendants walk around with a fine bottle of wine, topping off your glass. A nervous flyer? Six bucks a glass. Already took a Valium before you left the house? Zero dollars.don’t mix Valium with alcohol, especially in a sealed metal tube hurtling through the atmosphere. You’re just asking to get handcuffed with a zip tie. All drinks, including alcohol, are free. You might think that this would be worth a lot of money, if you count how many beers you could drink in three hours (remember, you can start drinking as soon as you sit down, while the 200 passengers in steerage are stowing their bags) and multiply that by $4, then you might come up with a big number. $25? $50? Not likely. It’s illegal to server an intoxicated passenger, and they’ll see me coming a mile away and cut me off at four or so. Let’s give this $20..no, $24. See previous paragraph. We already counted the wine at six bucks. Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for it. Jerry’s (My stepdad. We call him Thunder Thighs, and he tries to laugh.) company should pay for it, because he’s at the executive level, and that way he won’t have to take any Vaseline on the plane. But, if you can afford it, and if you fly a lot, you can avoid a lot of annoyances. Airline seats are TOO SMALL! You could go seriously ballistic if you had to sit by the window, right by the jet engine and the loo, month after month. And the waiting at the ticket gate and to get on and off the airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade! Did I leave anything out?
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<Posted & Mailed> > Actively seeking wedding planner for my friends wedding in DC this > coming October. Please send rates and info to email > Thanks
Hi Heather! I don’t know how many responses you’re going to get from this post since I don’t think there are a lot of wedding planners and consultants that lurk or post here. However, I will be happy to forward your request to a number of the consultants I know and they may be contacting you. You might consider checking the following: http://www.weddingpros.org/Categories/consultants_coordinators.htm These are members of the Association of Wedding Professionals here in the DC area. I have met all of them and have worked with many of them, and can vouch for their character, expertise, and professionalism. It would help to know what general area of DC you’re in since the DC area is almost 100 miles wide. A consultant in LaPlata might not be interested in taking a client in Frederick. Also, price depends on the kind of services you’re looking for. Many coordinators offer defferent packages, from start to finish planning to simple wedding day assistance, and plenty of things in between. Some base their fees on a percentage of the services they secure for you, and others have a straight per hour fee. Good luck! — The Jim Bowie Band – Gaithersburg, MD http://www.JimBowieBand.com President – Association of Wedding Professionals http://www.WeddingPros.org "I ain’t here on business, I’m only here for fun!" (Springsteen)
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Actively seeking wedding planner for my friends wedding in DC this coming October. Please send rates and info to email Thanks
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