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I haven’t had any experience with a wedding consultant so I cannot comment here. I guess the important thing is whether the wedding is something you want to plan yourself or would you rather have someone else doing the bulk of the planning. If there are other people who can help you then you may not need a consultant. One of the most important things you can probably do at this stage is decide on your venue because the most popular spots tend to get booked out fairly quickly. To do this you will need to have some idea of how many guests you are inviting so you would probably want to mock up a likely guest list. Of course the people on it are likely to change during the course of the year but it will give you some idea of how many people you do want to have at your wedding. This is really important as part of your budgeting process and it also reduces the chance of leaving that someone special off the guest list as you have several months to make corrections before it really matters. You’ve already decided your colours and probably have some vague idea of what your dresses will look like so there is a good start. Believe it or not you do have a reasonable amount of time to plan the wedding. It’ll be harder because you are studying but if you do a little bit here and a little bit there the planning isn’t as scarey. I’m making an assumption now but I would hazard a guess that you didn’t become a first year med student by leaving everything until the last minute. To get the grades you needed you had to be consistent in your study patterns and it is the same when planning your wedding. My ex flatmates sister got married and left everything until the last minute and I have never seen such a stressed bride in the month before the wedding. I worked on one item every week or two and it never felt like it was overwhelming me. Because I wasn’t rushing to do everything at once it almost became like a hobby. You go girl and all the best. Make the most of it and enjoy your day. Robyn
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Congrats to you
) Everything will work out perfectly! I know it’s hard to do, but try not to stress over the small stuff
) Happy Planning! Angel~
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> My fiance and I have finally set a date after being engaged for a year and > dating for 5 years!
Thats great, about time. Now take a deep breath and think….. I’m sure you heard of the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid > But now that we’ve set the date I’m at a complete loss of what to do next.
Go here or to 100 others just by typing wedding planning: http://www.ezweddorders.com/ Make a list, or get one off the net. If you got the time to post here, you got the time to browse to get the real answers. They are all in your head. All you get here is opinions. This is your test, leaning over to see someone elses answers is cheating. You can do a web search for lists of things that occur at weddings since the beginning of time. YOU decide what’s relevant to your unique situation. Here you will get nothing but stories of what they did, and they are not you, everyone’s situation is different, everyone is unique, there could be 100 variables in every story. > I’m hoping that I can get every single detail that I possibly can > set up during the coming summer, then let my maid of honor and sisters > handle the rest up until the wedding.
If this takes two months to plan, why did you waste four extra weeks. It’s not that difficult. Indecisiveness makes it difficult! You are simply planning an occcasion, you are not rebuilding the world. If your schooling interferes, do what the President does and should do, Delegate. > Has anybody had any experiences with wedding consultants and do you think > that the extra expense was worth it? I’m really tempted to go with one so > there would be less demands on my time, but I’d like to keep the budget as > tight as I possibly can!
You can’t your have cake and eat it too. Someone can recommend a wedding consultant that did a good job and you get the boob that makes a mess. A fifteen percent add-on. Finding a good one means you pay for a good one. Many who claim experience are nothing but expensive touts getting a chunk of your change in the process. Besides why pay someone to make a mistake that won’t be known till the actual occasion. They always have the right answer after the affair, after they got paid…. Now if the Wedding consultants want to give a money back guarantee for all they recommend and do, thats another story….. Just doesn’t happen that way…. Generally speaking, the first thing you need to get in your head is that this is not some complex thing. Using the simnple writers questions of WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, AND WHY. It will prompt you to get the answers. It’s simple enough. 1- Who do I invite? 2- What do I need to do to make this work? 3- When will it occur? 4- Where will it be….and Ha ha what will I wear? ( Double use here…) Anyone of the five should hit it on the head, simple problem solving. Ist year Med….maybe this makes sense… Where is the pain How long have you had it When does it occur What were you doing Why are you here…… See, make it simple…. > As far as letting my mom or my fiance’s mom > handling the plans, it’s out of the question, I’ve grown up in a > completely different culture than them and some of the things my mom has > already suggested to me do not fit anywhere near into my idea of my dream > wedding.
****** Re-read Question five again, see it works…..then how can we resolve this issue. No one here can give you the answer thats in your head… Now the next most important step is become a decision maker and stick to it. When you get tons of advice from friends, relatives or even some of the professional brides here, (some have been married 10 months and still hang around so they can tell their story again and again) you have to learn to separate story telling from "Whats good for you and your occasion".
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My fiance and I have finally set a date after being engaged for a year and dating for 5 years! I’m so happy I can barely contain myself! So as of November 29, 2002 I will be Mrs. Phan-Cao or Mrs. Cao (I haven’t decided yet whether to combine last names or just take his.) But now that we’ve set the date I’m at a complete loss of what to do next. My mom and I will be attending a bridal show in 2 weeks. I know that I want my bouquet to be red and white roses, and my bridesmaids dresses will be some red satiny number. My mom works for JC Penney’s so I’m hoping to take advantage of her employee discount and order the dresses and accessories and such. I have 2 weeks left of Christmas vacation but I don’t know what I can accomplish in that time. My main problem is that I am a first year student in medical school with very little precious free time, I’m hoping that I can get every single detail that I possibly can set up during the coming summer, then let my maid of honor and sisters handle the rest up until the wedding. I kind of wish that I could push the wedding back another month to occur during Christmas break instead of the day after Thanksgiving, but with the unpredictability of the weather here I don’t want to chance snow, and we’ll be having a lot of friends and relatives driving in from out of town. Has anybody had any experiences with wedding consultants and do you think that the extra expense was worth it? I’m really tempted to go with one so there would be less demands on my time, but I’d like to keep the budget as tight as I possibly can! As far as letting my mom or my fiance’s mom handling the plans, it’s out of the question, I’ve grown up in a completely different culture than them and some of the things my mom has already suggested to me do not fit anywhere near into my idea of my dream wedding. So much to do, so little time!
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Hello, I was married in a Catholic church to a non-Catholic person. The church didn’t really care that my fianc
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Thank you everyone for your advice! I ran it by my mom (having his parents and mine seated at different tables) and having just planned a party for 200, she said "Seat us where you like! Table planning is a bear!" I love my mom! And my planner (who is a friend of mine) did not care. She cared when I said "NO FAVORS" but I overruled her. After all, I’m the bride, right
Jenny
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We sat with out siblings and their partners/spouses even though only some were in the wedding party. DH’s parents are divorced and it would have been inappropriate to have them sit with us. As well, all had friends from out-of-town attend the wedding and wanted to sit with them. I would recommend, if you don’t plan on having a head table, sitting with people you like and enjoy. Sit your parents with people they like and enjoy. Don’t get stressed. — Melissa [who still has her awesome seating chart spreadsheet for anyone who wants it] 3/18/01
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is there an official word on "head table" seating? I’ve been to many > weddings where there is an obvious head table, a large rectangular > elevated table, but at my wedding, this is not the case. There will be > ten round tables of equal size, placed however I choose, most likely in > a horseshoe shape. > The wedding party consists of only my groom and I, and our parents. We > won’t be having any attendants, maids, or groomsmen. So my question is > this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) > do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the > "wedding party?" I figured my parents would enjoy the reception more > if we seated them next to some relatives that they dearly love but > never see, and we can seat his parents with the three family members > that they’ve invited (who are the *only* people that they will know at > a 75-85 person reception, through no fault of mine) and I’m sure don’t > want to sit with anyone that they don’t know. > I know my planner is going to bite my head off for this one – I just > want everyone to sit with whoever they feel most comfortable with. My > folks have met his folks exactly once. > Jenny > ps – also, I am having a few friends from work help out (manning the > guest book, and a few other smallish tasks just prior to the ceremony) > and I want to get them all some sort of gift to thank them. There are > four women, of varying ages and tastes. Should I get them gift > certificates? > pps – the wedding is in 26 days (or September 2nd if the math is right) > and we just bought a house. We’re having some contractors in to fix > some stuff right now, and they say they’ll be done JUST before the > wedding. Like, a few days before. So I get to pack up my life and > move as my wedding looms. I’m counting my blessings (house AND > husband? never thought I’d have either!) but still, I’m about to > develop an ulcer!
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Hi, it’s your wedding do what you want, the one nice thing to consider is that people will want to see you, so if you can be set at a larger (round or rectangular, though if you use rect. tables, as some halls only have these, put 2 together to make a wider table and put it on an angle to take away the cafeteria feeling), table with fewer than normal people at it so people can see you easily. And on the wedding planner note, oh I hate those people, I work at an Inn that specializes in weddings, we do whatever is asked of us, offering suggestions, but always respecting the wishes of the guests, and I have seen so many of these people only interested in themselves (and jacking up the bill). Have fun with your wedding day, and try to take it easy Randy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->So my question is > this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) > do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the > "wedding party?" > Seat people however they would be comfortable and enjoy the reception > most (well, as best you can). We had a table for just the 2 of us, > DH’s parents at a table with his grandparents and some other > relatives, My mom at a table with my grandma and a couple of Mom’s > good friends who came from out of town, and my Dad (they’re divorced) > at a table with his side of the family and a couple of DH’s relatives > whose company they would enjoy. My BM’s were all sisters (3 of mine, > and 1 of DH’s), and I sat them with friends and relatives of their own > ages who they enjoy spending time with. The groomsmen were similarly > spread out throughout the room. Overall, it worked out pretty well. > Plus, DH and I actually had a bit of time to eat and talk to each > other, which was nice (we’d hardly seen each other all week, and had > no time after the ceremony). And when people did come up to talk to > us, they weren’t in the way of other people at our table (yes, we did > mingle, too). > I know my planner is going to bite my head off for this one – I just > want everyone to sit with whoever they feel most comfortable with. My > folks have met his folks exactly once. > You have a wedding planner who would "bite your head off"? Are you > paying this person? He/she should be offering suggestions, but as you > are the client, your decisions should be treated with respect. Then > again, if you’re referring to your mother or another unpaid "planner" > from your families, all bets are off
> Jenny > ps – also, I am having a few friends from work help out (manning the > guest book, and a few other smallish tasks just prior to the ceremony) > and I want to get them all some sort of gift to thank them. There are > four women, of varying ages and tastes. Should I get them gift > certificates? > If you don’t know what else they’d like, gift certificates to places > like restaurants and movie theaters would be nice. Or, something like > a pen or notepad holder engraved with their name or initials might be > good (especially since you work with them). > –Enjoy your last month of wedding planning! > –twinkle to ms 7/7/01
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>So my question is > this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) > do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the > "wedding party?"
Seat people however they would be comfortable and enjoy the reception most (well, as best you can). We had a table for just the 2 of us, DH’s parents at a table with his grandparents and some other relatives, My mom at a table with my grandma and a couple of Mom’s good friends who came from out of town, and my Dad (they’re divorced) at a table with his side of the family and a couple of DH’s relatives whose company they would enjoy. My BM’s were all sisters (3 of mine, and 1 of DH’s), and I sat them with friends and relatives of their own ages who they enjoy spending time with. The groomsmen were similarly spread out throughout the room. Overall, it worked out pretty well. Plus, DH and I actually had a bit of time to eat and talk to each other, which was nice (we’d hardly seen each other all week, and had no time after the ceremony). And when people did come up to talk to us, they weren’t in the way of other people at our table (yes, we did mingle, too). > I know my planner is going to bite my head off for this one – I just > want everyone to sit with whoever they feel most comfortable with. My > folks have met his folks exactly once.
You have a wedding planner who would "bite your head off"? Are you paying this person? He/she should be offering suggestions, but as you are the client, your decisions should be treated with respect. Then again, if you’re referring to your mother or another unpaid "planner" from your families, all bets are off
> Jenny > ps – also, I am having a few friends from work help out (manning the > guest book, and a few other smallish tasks just prior to the ceremony) > and I want to get them all some sort of gift to thank them. There are > four women, of varying ages and tastes. Should I get them gift > certificates?
If you don’t know what else they’d like, gift certificates to places like restaurants and movie theaters would be nice. Or, something like a pen or notepad holder engraved with their name or initials might be good (especially since you work with them). –Enjoy your last month of wedding planning! –twinkle to ms 7/7/01
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> The wedding party consists of only my groom and I, and our parents. We > won’t be having any attendants, maids, or groomsmen. So my question is > this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) > do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the > "wedding party?" I figured my parents would enjoy the reception more > if we seated them next to some relatives that they dearly love but > never see, and we can seat his parents with the three family members > that they’ve invited (who are the *only* people that they will know at > a 75-85 person reception, through no fault of mine) and I’m sure don’t > want to sit with anyone that they don’t know.
There is no rule on who sits at the head table and in this case, consideration for others would override it if there were such a rule. Other couples in your situation have had a head table consisting of a small round table just for the bride and groom. It’s intimate but still preserves the distinction of a head table where the guests of honor are seated. > ps – also, I am having a few friends from work help out (manning the > guest book, and a few other smallish tasks just prior to the ceremony) > and I want to get them all some sort of gift to thank them. There are > four women, of varying ages and tastes. Should I get them gift > certificates?
Gift certificates to a restaurant would be quite nice.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Is there an official word on "head table" seating? I’ve been to many > weddings where there is an obvious head table, a large rectangular > elevated table, but at my wedding, this is not the case. There will be > ten round tables of equal size, placed however I choose, most likely in > a horseshoe shape. > The wedding party consists of only my groom and I, and our parents. We > won’t be having any attendants, maids, or groomsmen. So my question is > this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) > do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the > "wedding party?" I figured my parents would enjoy the reception more > if we seated them next to some relatives that they dearly love but > never see, and we can seat his parents with the three family members > that they’ve invited (who are the *only* people that they will know at > a 75-85 person reception, through no fault of mine) and I’m sure don’t > want to sit with anyone that they don’t know.
You do not need to sit your parents together or with you, and many couples don’t. Emily Post thinks it’s unfriendly and not in the spirit of "joining" appropriate to a wedding to seat the bride’s family at one table and the groom’s family at another, but it is not strictly incorrect. And frankly, if you get into really proper seating, where couples aren’t seated together and men and women alternate and all that jazz, you’ll find very few people do that at all. I think the main thing is to do what is going to make your guests and family comfortable while encouraging people to socialize with one another. You don’t want to deliberately set things up so that groups who already know each other huddle together for support and never venture out to meet other people. Sometimes a great way to do this is to spread family all around the room. If you’re having a rehearsal dinner, that’s often a good time to get the parents to meet each other. Seat the bride’s father with the groom’s mother and the groom’s father with the bride’s mother. Then they can get to know one another in a less intimidating situation and they’ll be getting on famously by the wedding reception. Best wishes, Ericka — The return address on this message works, but it goes to an account I weed out only on occasion. To send me email, send to my first name dot my last name at home dot com and watch the spelling
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Is there an official word on "head table" seating? I’ve been to many weddings where there is an obvious head table, a large rectangular elevated table, but at my wedding, this is not the case. There will be ten round tables of equal size, placed however I choose, most likely in a horseshoe shape. The wedding party consists of only my groom and I, and our parents. We won’t be having any attendants, maids, or groomsmen. So my question is this (it came up while my sister was helping me plan the seating chart) do my FH and I have to seat our parents together because they are the "wedding party?" I figured my parents would enjoy the reception more if we seated them next to some relatives that they dearly love but never see, and we can seat his parents with the three family members that they’ve invited (who are the *only* people that they will know at a 75-85 person reception, through no fault of mine) and I’m sure don’t want to sit with anyone that they don’t know. I know my planner is going to bite my head off for this one – I just want everyone to sit with whoever they feel most comfortable with. My folks have met his folks exactly once. Jenny ps – also, I am having a few friends from work help out (manning the guest book, and a few other smallish tasks just prior to the ceremony) and I want to get them all some sort of gift to thank them. There are four women, of varying ages and tastes. Should I get them gift certificates? pps – the wedding is in 26 days (or September 2nd if the math is right) and we just bought a house. We’re having some contractors in to fix some stuff right now, and they say they’ll be done JUST before the wedding. Like, a few days before. So I get to pack up my life and move as my wedding looms. I’m counting my blessings (house AND husband? never thought I’d have either!) but still, I’m about to develop an ulcer!
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Hi Everyone, I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are archived on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase Personal Choice Cruising Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of personalization options. The new web site can be found at www.princess.com. "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of the Princess experience." Voice Your Choice Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a better understanding of what their customers want in order to further tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be reflected in our online poll," said Putman. As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What type of exercise do you do most often? The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do something on vacation." Wed Cam Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the option prior to their ceremony. Site Redesign The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. About Princess Cruises Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. About kpe Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and creative services, website development, original content creation and interactive game development.
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It’s funny, when you are on their site they are pinging your IP address for some reason. My firewall detected that last week. It was something that never happened before the redesign.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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Right you are Mike! I keep getting IE messages that they are trying to "cookie" me. Guess we will see in a few weeks tho I kept saying NO to the requests. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > It’s funny, when you are on their site they are pinging your IP address for > some reason. My firewall detected that last week. It was something that > never happened before the redesign. > Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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>They clearly don’t read the information since we had >both filled in our addresses quite correctly.
Hi Carole, Princess, as well as most other cruise lines, take the home city information from the reservation that your travel agent makes. They do NOT use the form that you send in or fill out. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Oh. Carole
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->They clearly don’t read the information since we had >both filled in our addresses quite correctly. > Hi Carole, > Princess, as well as most other cruise lines, take the home city > information from the reservation that your travel agent makes. They > do NOT use the form that you send in or fill out. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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It may be redesigned but it’s buggy. My roomate and I are from different cities. We’ll be on Royal Septembeer 10th. We filled ouut all our information online and bought some shore excursions. I see that they have our home cities as chicago. Now I was born in Chicago but I haven’t lived there since I was a teen. My friend still does. The site didn’t allow us to change anything and said that our travel agent had to do that. So I e-mailed her and sure enough they changed my home city to Miami – and my friend’s city also somehow changed to Miami. So I e-mailed my TA yet again and told her and she fixed it. They clearly don’t read the information since we had both filled in our addresses quite correctly. We had our part of it done well before the 40 day limit that allows you not to fill anything out. However, by the time we straightened out Princess’ mistakes that deadline had passed. It will be interesting to see if we will have to fill everything out yet again when we receive our cruise docs. Carole
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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Hi Everyone, I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are archived on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase Personal Choice Cruising Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of personalization options. The new web site can be found at www.princess.com. "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of the Princess experience." Voice Your Choice Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a better understanding of what their customers want in order to further tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be reflected in our online poll," said Putman. As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What type of exercise do you do most often? The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do something on vacation." Wed Cam Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the option prior to their ceremony. Site Redesign The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. About Princess Cruises Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. About kpe Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and creative services, website development, original content creation and interactive game development.
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It may be redesigned but it’s buggy. My roomate and I are from different cities. We’ll be on Royal Septembeer 10th. We filled ouut all our information online and bought some shore excursions. I see that they have our home cities as chicago. Now I was born in Chicago but I haven’t lived there since I was a teen. My friend still does. The site didn’t allow us to change anything and said that our travel agent had to do that. So I e-mailed her and sure enough they changed my home city to Miami – and my friend’s city also somehow changed to Miami. So I e-mailed my TA yet again and told her and she fixed it. They clearly don’t read the information since we had both filled in our addresses quite correctly. We had our part of it done well before the 40 day limit that allows you not to fill anything out. However, by the time we straightened out Princess’ mistakes that deadline had passed. It will be interesting to see if we will have to fill everything out yet again when we receive our cruise docs. Carole
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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>They clearly don’t read the information since we had >both filled in our addresses quite correctly.
Hi Carole, Princess, as well as most other cruise lines, take the home city information from the reservation that your travel agent makes. They do NOT use the form that you send in or fill out. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Oh. Carole
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->They clearly don’t read the information since we had >both filled in our addresses quite correctly. > Hi Carole, > Princess, as well as most other cruise lines, take the home city > information from the reservation that your travel agent makes. They > do NOT use the form that you send in or fill out. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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It’s funny, when you are on their site they are pinging your IP address for some reason. My firewall detected that last week. It was something that never happened before the redesign.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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Right you are Mike! I keep getting IE messages that they are trying to "cookie" me. Guess we will see in a few weeks tho I kept saying NO to the requests. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > It’s funny, when you are on their site they are pinging your IP address for > some reason. My firewall detected that last week. It was something that > never happened before the redesign. > Hi Everyone, > I received this press release from Princess and thought it may be of > interest. If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are > archived on my web site. > Best regards, > Ray > LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL > 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 > http://www.lighthousetravel.com > Redesigned Princess Web Site Uses Latest Technology To Showcase > Personal Choice Cruising > Weekly “Voice Your Choice” Opinion Poll, Images From First-Ever > Sea-Going Wedding Cam Debut, Giving Travelers A Choice Online > SANTA CLARA, CA Aug 07, 2001 > Using cutting edge technology, Princess Cruises will show travelers > visiting its completely redesigned web site that their opinions > matter, and that the cruise line is interested in providing a vacation > experience tailored to their individual preferences. The new web site, > debuting today, launches a weekly, interactive "Voice Your Choice" > opinion poll and also features live wedding images from at-sea > nuptials aboard Princess ships. It was designed to reflect Princess’ > emphasis on its Personal Choice Cruising (SM) program, which has > de-regimented the onboard experience by providing a variety of > personalization options. The new web site can be found at > www.princess.com. > "We’re looking to our customers to tell us what they want in a > vacation experience. That was the genesis of Personal Choice Cruising, > which we introduced earlier this year," said Todd Putman, Princess’ > vice president of marketing. "Our new site, with its simpler > navigation, features and opinion poll was re-designed to continue this > theme and punctuate that our passengers’ desires are at the heart of > the Princess experience." > Voice Your Choice > Princess’ "Voice Your Choice" weekly online poll, featured prominently > on the site’s home page, will gauge consumers’ views on travel and > leisure topics. The poll includes an instant tabulation feature that > shows the participant how his or her views measure against earlier > respondents. This engaging site feature will enable Princess to gain a > better understanding of what their customers want in order to further > tailor some of its offerings, such as menu items, shore excursions and > onboard amenities. "Personal Choice Cruising is all about responding > to passengers’ hopes, dreams, whims and desires, and this will be > reflected in our online poll," said Putman. > As participants enter their answers to the "Voice Your Choice" poll, > the results will be posted immediately and then archived for four > weeks. Sample questions include: Whose recommendation do you most rely > on when considering vacation options? If you could go behind the > scenes on a cruise ship, what area would you choose to visit? What > type of exercise do you do most often? > The online poll, which began as a real world Omnibus travel survey, > has become a marquis feature of the newly designed site. "Survey > findings showed that consumers seek personalized experiences and want > to be treated as individuals, which supports the principles of > Personal Choice Cruising. We found that ‘Voice Your Choice’ was a > powerful resource to get a pulse on what consumers want, so we decided > to take it online and make it weekly," said Putman. An earlier Omnibus > poll revealed that seventy six percent (three-out-of-four) of > respondents prefer a vacation "completely tailored and customized to > my needs and desires." And, that the majority of respondents (63 > percent) said "they felt annoyed when told exactly how and when to do > something on vacation." > Wed Cam > Based on the popularity of Princess’ innovative bridge cams, which > provide site users with dramatic worldwide views captured from each > Princess ship, the new web site debuts a similar "wed cam." In > conjunction with Princess’ exclusive wedding program that enables the > Princess captains to perform marriages at sea, family and friends at > home will now be able to "virtually" attend the nuptials of their > loved ones, online. Weddings take place during sea days, and the live > cyber images from the ship’s wedding chapel are updated every 10 > seconds during the ceremony. Weddings are currently being broadcast > from the line’s new Golden Princess, which is sailing the > Mediterranean this summer, and this feature will soon be added to > Grand Princess. The camera will be used only when a couple chooses the > option prior to their ceremony. > Site Redesign > The new web site features a clean, fresh navigation and elements > reflective of a passenger’s ability to discover a vacation experience > reflecting their unique personal desires. The site offers new features > targeted to meeting consumer needs including "Plan Your Voyage" where > users can find the best Princess cruise for them by destination, ship, > time of year or special interest, as well as view illustrated maps > with interactive rollovers so they can learn more about itineraries > and ports; and "Cruise Personalizer" which enables passengers to > pre-book shore excursions and customize other aspects of their cruise. > In addition, the site debuts a search engine powered by AskJeeves so > users can easily find what they want on the site. For travel agents, > the site’s Travel Agent Center features a link to Princess’ > convenient, new online ad planner. The site was produced by (kpe), who > has been Princess’ interactive agency of record since 1998. > Personal Choice Cruising Choice Cruising enables passengers to tailor > their cruise experience with a wide array of customizable dining, > entertainment and amenity options. Key examples of Princess putting > its passengers in control of designing their own vacation are Personal > Choice Dining (SM), the only dining program in the industry to offer > both the traditional fixed seating along with the option of > restaurant-style seating allowing passengers to dine when, where, and > with whom they want; Cruise Personalizer (SM), a unique online feature > that gives passengers the opportunity to book their shore excursions, > special occasions and dietary requirements in advance of the cruise; > FlightChoice (SM), which provides air schedule details 60 days in > advance of sailing, more than a month sooner than industry norm, > enabling passengers to choose a customized air schedule if the > assigned flights don’t meet their needs; and Your Choice Boarding > which gives passengers a fast, new Express Check-In option when > pre-cruise documentation is returned early to Princess. > About Princess Cruises > Princess Cruises, one of the best-known names in North America > cruising, is a global cruise and tour company. Part of P&O Cruises plc > (NYSE: POC), it operates ten ships on 150 different itineraries > calling at nearly 260 ports around the globe. By 2004 another five > ships will be added to its worldwide fleet. > About kpe > Founded in 1996, kpe is the leading digital partner to media and > entertainment companies. (kpe) offers clients strategic planning and > technology-driven marketing solutions including integrated design and > creative services, website development, original content creation and > interactive game development.
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> 2. the disposable cameras were a complete waste of time!! We had 8 of them > scattered around on tables. 2 of the cameras didn’t even get used at all. > The ones that did get used… let’s just say that someone should be > monitoring their children more closely! We honestly PAID to develop 6 rolls > of film of the ceiling, floor, kids hands, foreheads, etc.
Perhaps attach a quick note asking people to please take photos of everyone at the table during the night–just putting a camera out assumes people know what you want done with it. Adding a note telling folks not to let the kids use them may insult guests with photographically-inclined, well-behaved children. Maybe it would help to have fewer cameras–1 for every 2 tables or so–this will cut down the # of cameras to develop, and help people resist the urge to "finish up the roll" with junk. FSIL did this at her wedding–the cameras had a note attached asking folks to take photos of the table, then pass to table X, and leave to be developed. They didn’t have many kids at the reception, but got a good number of good photos.
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Diane, A pre-wedding party is something we developed. My FMIL wanted to have a reception in fiance’s hometown after the wedding and reception since they are in different states and many of his relatives are not able to travel to the wedding so she wanted them to be included in the celebration by having a 2nd reception in their hometown. However, we are moving 3,000 directly after the wedding and do not have the time for that 2nd reception. So, instead of foregoing it, we decided to have it prior to the wedding. Technically it wasn’t a reception since they weren’t receiving any newly married couple, but it was loads of fun. =o) — Kim < June 30th 2001 >
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Kim, > You don’t have to have those disposable cameras at your reception. Most > likely, lots of folks will show up with cameras anyway, so you’ll probably > wind up with a number of your guests giving you little envelopes of their > best shots – for a few weeks or even months afterwards! I had a small > wedding and got quite a number of these. > What is a pre-wedding party, anyway? > Diane I. > Life is good. > My email account is at nyc.rr.com addressed to dti > 2. the disposable cameras were a complete waste of time!! We had 8 of > them > scattered around on tables. 2 of the cameras didn’t even get used at all.
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Kim, You don’t have to have those disposable cameras at your reception. Most likely, lots of folks will show up with cameras anyway, so you’ll probably wind up with a number of your guests giving you little envelopes of their best shots – for a few weeks or even months afterwards! I had a small wedding and got quite a number of these. What is a pre-wedding party, anyway? Diane I. Life is good. My email account is at nyc.rr.com addressed to dti
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 2. the disposable cameras were a complete waste of time!! We had 8 of them > scattered around on tables. 2 of the cameras didn’t even get used at all.
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> Are you the couple-to-be who was being feted pre-wedding? Like a "second > reception," only "pre?"
yes, that was us. we have coined the term "preception" =o) > Uh, you opened gifts at this "reception?" Not generally a very good plan. > There’s too much opportunity for lost cards and all sorts of other problems > (not limited to the obvious: comparing of gifts and embarrassment by your > guests). Other b-2-b, please don’t!
I guess I should have stated that more clearly. We didn’t open the gifts at the reception. We opened them the following morning at home with only our parents as spectators. Many relatives asked if they could come over to watch the unwrapping and I politely declined as, like you said, I did not want people comparing gifts. > This will undoubtedly happen at your reception as well. Everyone wants top > dance with the HC and give them good wishes. Did you "do the tables" at the > pre-wedding? Are you planning to "do the tables" at the reception? You have > an OBLIGATION to greet your guests.
We sort of did a mix. We stood near the door for awhile and greeted people as they came in. Then we decided to leave that and do the tables to talk to people. At the wedding, we are planning to do a recieving line. We both hate them, but I think it will be easier that way.
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> We still have the 2 cameras that didn’t get touched and we had wanted to use > the disposables at the reception (in addition to the paid photographer) but > we’re not sure if we should now. Would it be really innapropriate to attach > notes to the cameras stating they are for adults only? Fortunately, the > kids that took the first batch of photos will not be at the wedding…
Just skip the disposables — if you want additional candids, round up the relatives and close friends who *love* taking photos (we all have a few of these) and ask them to snap as they please. This weekend we took two sets of indoor architectural photos, one with my husband’s ordinary 35mm camera, and one with a disposable that we’d intended to use on a trip. I carried around the same halogen spotlight for both sets of photos, and they were developed at the same time. The ones taken with a regular camera came out great; the ones taken with the disposable not so great. Now, we are not professional photographers, but neither are your guests! In general, my experience with disposables — and I use them a lot because I can’t be trusted with a regular camera — is that the results are just not very dependable, even when the people using them are behaving themselves. This is especially true with the flash ones for indoors. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 3. Do not rush when opening your gifts. I wouldn’t say we rushed, but I > missed out something I had wanted to do. I had wanted to keep a scrap of > the wrapping paper and make a scrapbook with all the cards and paper. Well, > I kept scraps of the wrapping paper, but I forgot to jot down which paper > came from which person… so now I just have paper scraps at random. Not a > huge deal, but something I had planned on doing and now can’t. > 4. FH and I only got the chance to dance to one slow song the entire night. > This was not a big deal since we’re not huge dancers to begin with, but I > would have liked to dance with him more. We were occupied talking with > various guests and then when we did get on the dance floor, his young (8, 6, > and 4) year old cousins were yanking our arms and wanting us to dance > together with them. It was fun though. > 5. Prepare the food in proportion to the # of guests. FMIL apparently > cannot do this very well. There was so much food leftover!! We ended up > inviting everyone back to the hall the following afternoon for lunch to try > to eat some of it up. After that, we had to divide everything up and were > giving it away. There was an entire ham that never even got cut at the > party! So good estimation is always good in saving money and food. > — > Kim > < June 30th 2001 >
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> FH and I just arrived back home from a week in his hometown. We had our > pre-wedding party last Saturday night
Are you the couple-to-be who was being feted pre-wedding? Like a "second reception," only "pre?" > That was actually quite nice and made the entire evening quite relaxing. I > just had a few observations that I wanted to pass along to other couples in > terms of reception planning. > 1. we brought along a bunch of CDs that we really enjoy and had a cousing > act as DJ for the event. However, we forgot to take into consideration that > the majority of the guests were over the age of 40
This seems to be a somewhat common theme among reception planners. It may be "your day" (generic "you," of course), but your guests really should come first in planning an event of this sort. . As it turned out, many guests had CDs in their > vehicles and were more than willing to help us out in providing a wider > variety of music.
Sounds like you fixed the problem quite nicely! > FH still refused to let them play country music though. > =o)
Shame on FH (though, were it "my party," I’d have done the same <wink>)! > 2. the disposable cameras were a complete waste of time!! We had 8 of them > scattered around on tables. 2 of the cameras didn’t even get used at all. > The ones that did get used… let’s just say that someone should be > monitoring their children more closely!
This also seems to be a common theme! Kids will be kids and parents (especially when they are among folks they haven’t seen in a while) may let their little ones "run amok." (after all, "it’s family.") <sigh> . > We still have the 2 cameras that didn’t get touched and we had wanted to use > the disposables at the reception (in addition to the paid photographer) but > we’re not sure if we should now. Would it be really innapropriate to attach > notes to the cameras stating they are for adults only?
Yes, it would be HIGLY inappropriate. You have to assume that your adult guests are responsible adults. If you are concerned about the quality of the shots, get a couple of folks you know and trust to take the candids for you. Don’t leave it to chance! > 3. Do not rush when opening your gifts.
Uh, you opened gifts at this "reception?" Not generally a very good plan. There’s too much opportunity for lost cards and all sorts of other problems (not limited to the obvious: comparing of gifts and embarrassment by your guests). Other b-2-b, please don’t! > I wouldn’t say we rushed, but I > missed out something I had wanted to do. I had wanted to keep a scrap of > the wrapping paper and make a scrapbook with all the cards and paper.
I hate to be a "ron" on this one, but everyone I know is doing major clean out of that sort of stuff these days. What the heck are you hoping to accomplish by saing it? Just curious. And if you’re serious about wanting to keep it, use it as a colage behind (say) some photos, the invitation, etc. in a scrapbook. The paper is still there even if you don’t remember exactly ~whose~ gift it was wrapped around. . > 4. FH and I only got the chance to dance to one slow song the entire
night. This will undoubtedly happen at your reception as well. Everyone wants top dance with the HC and give them good wishes. Did you "do the tables" at the pre-wedding? Are you planning to "do the tables" at the reception? You have an OBLIGATION to greet your guests. You’ll have the rest of your lives to dance together. > This was not a big deal since we’re not huge dancers to begin with, but I > would have liked to dance with him more. We were occupied talking with > various guests and then when we did get on the dance floor, his young (8, 6, > and 4) year old cousins were yanking our arms and wanting us to dance > together with them. It was fun though.
Kids! See above note on cameras! > 5. Prepare the food in proportion to the # of guests. FMIL apparently > cannot do this very well.
Whoa! Hold it! STOP! The hostess has a responsibility to see that there is ENOUGH. I can’t imagine anything worse than a party without enough food! > There was so much food leftover!! We ended up > inviting everyone back to the hall the following afternoon for lunch to try > to eat some of it up. After that, we had to divide everything up and were > giving it away. There was an entire ham that never even got cut at the > party! So good estimation is always good in saving money and food. > — > Kim > < June 30th 2001 >
Kim, sounds as though it was a great weekend. Now on to the wedding! Ann
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FH and I just arrived back home from a week in his hometown. We had our pre-wedding party last Saturday night and it was a big hit. There were probably close to 200 guests there and it appeared as though everyone had a great time. FH’s parents and other relatives planned the entire event and we basically just showed up and had nothing to do with any of the planning. That was actually quite nice and made the entire evening quite relaxing. I just had a few observations that I wanted to pass along to other couples in terms of reception planning. 1. we brought along a bunch of CDs that we really enjoy and had a cousing act as DJ for the event. However, we forgot to take into consideration that the majority of the guests were over the age of 40 and did not necessarily enjoy the same type of music that we do. This was a faux pas on our part as we didn’t really know who was on the guest list and who would actually be at the event until we arrived. As it turned out, many guests had CDs in their vehicles and were more than willing to help us out in providing a wider variety of music. FH still refused to let them play country music though. =o) 2. the disposable cameras were a complete waste of time!! We had 8 of them scattered around on tables. 2 of the cameras didn’t even get used at all. The ones that did get used… let’s just say that someone should be monitoring their children more closely! We honestly PAID to develop 6 rolls of film of the ceiling, floor, kids hands, foreheads, etc. There were a handful of pictures that were actually decent, unfortunately, 90% of those were of these same kids… believe it or not, there was not a single picture of FH or I on any of the film! So, the cameras were really disappointing. We still have the 2 cameras that didn’t get touched and we had wanted to use the disposables at the reception (in addition to the paid photographer) but we’re not sure if we should now. Would it be really innapropriate to attach notes to the cameras stating they are for adults only? Fortunately, the kids that took the first batch of photos will not be at the wedding… 3. Do not rush when opening your gifts. I wouldn’t say we rushed, but I missed out something I had wanted to do. I had wanted to keep a scrap of the wrapping paper and make a scrapbook with all the cards and paper. Well, I kept scraps of the wrapping paper, but I forgot to jot down which paper came from which person… so now I just have paper scraps at random. Not a huge deal, but something I had planned on doing and now can’t. 4. FH and I only got the chance to dance to one slow song the entire night. This was not a big deal since we’re not huge dancers to begin with, but I would have liked to dance with him more. We were occupied talking with various guests and then when we did get on the dance floor, his young (8, 6, and 4) year old cousins were yanking our arms and wanting us to dance together with them. It was fun though. 5. Prepare the food in proportion to the # of guests. FMIL apparently cannot do this very well. There was so much food leftover!! We ended up inviting everyone back to the hall the following afternoon for lunch to try to eat some of it up. After that, we had to divide everything up and were giving it away. There was an entire ham that never even got cut at the party! So good estimation is always good in saving money and food. — Kim < June 30th 2001 >
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This question is for Noe. You always seem very knowledgeable and well versed in the traditional wedding ettiquette. Are you a wedding consultant or involved in the wedding business in some fashion? I’m just curious how one person could know so much about ettiquette. — Kim < June 30th 2001 >
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>This question is for Noe.
Answered privately via e-mail.
Noe
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> Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, > would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for
Not quite. Why don’t you look up the full fare economy fare, the fare that is generally paid by businesspeople, and compare that to first class. There is often not much difference between the two fares, and if you value those ‘features’ at $219, that’s often similar to the price that you actually would have to pay for them. > airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I > imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You > did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call > Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade!
Substantially more? Hardly. You just aren’t comparing equal fare classes or rights.
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>My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. >Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. >The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before >continuing to SFO.
Ah, probably a relation of the Honolulu jail for NZ pax continuing to LAX
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yes – due to the FF issues, I have to go BA thru LHR and that takes a "bit" longer. Aeroflot goes direct, but then I’d have to PAY for it. ;-)
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> I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both > ways). You just have > to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do > this before takeoff. > If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. > Michael > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > because of > > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > Nah – > > > not worth it. > > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > > half their age? > > — > > Weiyun > > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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Last year, due to FF, I couldn’t take BA to LHR. I did it with AA SFO-JFK-LHR, then BA LHR-SVO. Returned thru ORD. Of course, I had a 12 hour overnight in LHR on the return, so stayed at the HEathrow Hilton. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > yes – due to the FF issues, I have to go BA thru LHR and that takes a "bit" > longer. Aeroflot goes direct, but then I’d have to PAY for it. ;-) > My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. > Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. > The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before > continuing to SFO.
> I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both > ways). You just have > to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do > this before takeoff. > If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. > Michael > > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because > the > > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again > since > > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before > in > > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for > your > > > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential > for > > > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > > because of > > > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > > Nah – > > > > not worth it. > > > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > > > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about > at > > > half their age? > > > — > > > Weiyun > > > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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> Especially since you don’t get there any quicker. Punctuality is still THE > most important factor. Now if they could somehow get the first class > passangers to their destination faster…..
You have your choice of the Concorde, or the new aircraft that Boeing’s working on for that one. cedric
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> First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that > you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. > UNLESS you’re flying first class on Air Jamaica out of Montego Bay, in which > case you’re treated just like everyone else when it comes time to board the > plane…from personal experience…
Or Royal Air Maroc out of Madrid. Same thing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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My airtime from SVO-SEA was under 10 1/2 hours on Monday. Do you fly a slower airline than Aeroflot. The bad news, was I had to wait in the Seattle S-12 jail before continuing to SFO.
I didn’t need Business Class. Coach gave me 3 seats to myself (both ways). You just have to spot the empty seats and jumped to them ASAP. Sometimes, you can do this before takeoff. If a late comer shows up, you still have a BP for you old seat. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the > 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since > it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in > coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.) > > aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since > because of > > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? > Nah – > > not worth it. > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > half their age? > — > Weiyun > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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Especially since you don’t get there any quicker. Punctuality is still THE most important factor. Now if they could somehow get the first class passangers to their destination faster…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
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> First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach.
UNLESS you’re flying first class on Air Jamaica out of Montego Bay, in which case you’re treated just like everyone else when it comes time to board the plane…from personal experience…
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
[snip] Well, you mean pay full fare. No, ain’t gonna do it. Did upgrade once for 5000 miles which is ’bout $75-$150 depending upon what value you place on ‘em. For a 5+ hour domestic coast to coast flight, yeah, it was "worth" it. I’ll pay for it, I just won’t pay much.
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now at 14 hours it gets a bit different. I’m using biz SEA-SVO because the 20000 extra miles offsets the discomfort. (possibly not worth it again since it’s the equivalent of a domestic ticket, but having endured it before in coach, it’s not something I look forward to again.)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it. > Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in > trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at > half their age? > — > Weiyun > [Remove the obvious for replies]
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max)
It may not be "worth it" to a lot of people, but if the airline didn’t make money on it, it wouldn’t be there.
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> aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your > fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for > domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of > FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit > "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – > not worth it.
Right on! Seeing regular 70+ yo retirees quietly enduring 14+ hours in trans-Pacific coach makes me wonder what do I have to complain about at half their age? — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for replies]
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aside from free drinks, somewhat better food, and a wider seat for your fanny, the benefits of FC wouldn’t justify the price differential for domestic flights (6 hours max) (Of course, that being said, since because of FF status I get in first more often than not, and I’ve become a bit "spoiled", I tend to miss it when I’m in "steerage".) Pay for it? Nah – not worth it.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As an introduction, an unnamed airline provided the wrong equipment at the > gate; subsequently, the flight was oversold by 40 people. The airline couldn > ‘t get enough volunteers to get off the plane, so I, and about six others, > missed the flight. The airline put us first class (my one and only FC) on > the next available flight, and gave us each a $300 voucher. OK…it was CO. > As I promised my mom, I noted some differences between first class, and > steerage.I mean coach, because she’s never been FC either. I’ll try to > quantify each statement with a dollar value, to see if we can justify the > extra cost of first class. > First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you > don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. You > wait in line behind about 20 people instead. Much better. This is more > important the more you fly, so we’ll give it a one time value of $40. > You get to board before everyone else, so you don’t have to wait for the > same 200 people to stuff every bit of their personal belongings into an > overhead bin. Plus you can sneer at them as you walk onto the jet way. > Unfortunately, the caterers hadn’t finished with First Class yet, so Coach > boarded first for my flight. It was one of those days, so I tried not to be > disappointed. But still, I was a holder of a first class ticket! Give it > another $40. Maybe more. > Nice, wide, big, leather seats. This is good for those of us who have > trouble squeezing their fat butts in between the armrests in the regular > seats. A few more added pounds on me and I’ll be using Vaseline just to sit > down. Plus, the First Class seats recline further, and you have more room > for your legs, and more room for your feet. Could this possibly be > worth…one hundred dollars? Again, it would if you fly a lot, and it damn > sure would if you were on your way to Europe or Australia. > Upon boarding the plane, you are immediately served the beverage of your > choice. Free. No waiting for the plane to take off and level out and for the > waitresses to roll the beverage cart through. $10. > If you’re seated on the left side of the plane, you get to watch the jet way > pull away from the plane. This is only exciting if, one, you like airplanes > and airports, and two, if you’ve never seen it before. Save embarrassment > during your first First Class flight by not exclaiming loudly "look, there > goes the jet way!" Trust me on this. $10. > The flight attendants offer quicker, more personalized service. In fact, > they turn into complete sycophants, kneeling down and smiling as you make > your drink or food order. I changed my mind twice one time, just because I > knew I could. Priceless. > You save $4 for the movie, because you don’t have to rent the headphones as > you would in Coach. I was under the impression that you could choose which > movie you wanted to watch, but I must have been mistaken. On a side note, I > had to watch Chocolat, one of the most boring Oscar nominated movies ever > made. What a dud! I wish that the people that made that movie would have > watched The Milagro Beanfield War, one of Redford’s greatest directorial > achievements, or even last year’s winner, before they made this movie.worse, > though, was the movie that I had to watch on the way to Los Angeles, in > coach: The Wedding Planner. Ug. Actually, don’t tell anyone, but I kinda > like the J Lo. It could have been worse. $4. > The meals are a LOT better. I had a choice of either a hot ham and turkey > sandwich, with an Asian noodle soup, or a green salad with chicken. I had > the sandwich, and the soup was pretty damn good for being served on an > airplane. In fact, it would have been pretty damn good anywhere. But since > most of the airline food is no better or worse than the Budget Gourmet meals > that I occasionally eat, coach food doesn’t bother me. I only give this $5. > Ahhhhh..hot steamed towels, before dinner. I give this…a big fat 0 on the > dollar scale, but a 10 on the "stupidity" scale. Who cares! > Linen napkins with your meal. Another fatty. OK.fine.whatever.this, and the > towels, $10. > Choice of your better wines. This might be important, it might not. The wine > you usually get in coach comes with a screw off top and instructions on the > label: Serve Over Ice. In first class, the attendants walk around with a > fine bottle of wine, topping off your glass. A nervous flyer? Six bucks a > glass. Already took a Valium before you left the house? Zero dollars.don’t > mix Valium with alcohol, especially in a sealed metal tube hurtling through > the atmosphere. You’re just asking to get handcuffed with a zip tie. > All drinks, including alcohol, are free. You might think that this would be > worth a lot of money, if you count how many beers you could drink in three > hours (remember, you can start drinking as soon as you sit down, while the > 200 passengers in steerage are stowing their bags) and multiply that by $4, > then you might come up with a big number. $25? $50? Not likely. It’s illegal > to server an intoxicated passenger, and they’ll see me coming a mile away > and cut me off at four or so. Let’s give this $20..no, $24. See previous > paragraph. We already counted the wine at six bucks. > Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, > would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for > it. Jerry’s (My stepdad. We call him Thunder Thighs, and he tries to laugh.) > company should pay for it, because he’s at the executive level, and that way > he won’t have to take any Vaseline on the plane. > But, if you can afford it, and if you fly a lot, you can avoid a lot of > annoyances. Airline seats are TOO SMALL! You could go seriously ballistic if > you had to sit by the window, right by the jet engine and the loo, month > after month. And the waiting at the ticket gate and to get on and off the > airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I > imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You > did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call > Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade! > Did I leave anything out?
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As an introduction, an unnamed airline provided the wrong equipment at the gate; subsequently, the flight was oversold by 40 people. The airline couldn ‘t get enough volunteers to get off the plane, so I, and about six others, missed the flight. The airline put us first class (my one and only FC) on the next available flight, and gave us each a $300 voucher. OK…it was CO. As I promised my mom, I noted some differences between first class, and steerage.I mean coach, because she’s never been FC either. I’ll try to quantify each statement with a dollar value, to see if we can justify the extra cost of first class. First class passengers are treated special. The first difference is that you don’t have to wait in line behind the 200 people who are flying coach. You wait in line behind about 20 people instead. Much better. This is more important the more you fly, so we’ll give it a one time value of $40. You get to board before everyone else, so you don’t have to wait for the same 200 people to stuff every bit of their personal belongings into an overhead bin. Plus you can sneer at them as you walk onto the jet way. Unfortunately, the caterers hadn’t finished with First Class yet, so Coach boarded first for my flight. It was one of those days, so I tried not to be disappointed. But still, I was a holder of a first class ticket! Give it another $40. Maybe more. Nice, wide, big, leather seats. This is good for those of us who have trouble squeezing their fat butts in between the armrests in the regular seats. A few more added pounds on me and I’ll be using Vaseline just to sit down. Plus, the First Class seats recline further, and you have more room for your legs, and more room for your feet. Could this possibly be worth…one hundred dollars? Again, it would if you fly a lot, and it damn sure would if you were on your way to Europe or Australia. Upon boarding the plane, you are immediately served the beverage of your choice. Free. No waiting for the plane to take off and level out and for the waitresses to roll the beverage cart through. $10. If you’re seated on the left side of the plane, you get to watch the jet way pull away from the plane. This is only exciting if, one, you like airplanes and airports, and two, if you’ve never seen it before. Save embarrassment during your first First Class flight by not exclaiming loudly "look, there goes the jet way!" Trust me on this. $10. The flight attendants offer quicker, more personalized service. In fact, they turn into complete sycophants, kneeling down and smiling as you make your drink or food order. I changed my mind twice one time, just because I knew I could. Priceless. You save $4 for the movie, because you don’t have to rent the headphones as you would in Coach. I was under the impression that you could choose which movie you wanted to watch, but I must have been mistaken. On a side note, I had to watch Chocolat, one of the most boring Oscar nominated movies ever made. What a dud! I wish that the people that made that movie would have watched The Milagro Beanfield War, one of Redford’s greatest directorial achievements, or even last year’s winner, before they made this movie.worse, though, was the movie that I had to watch on the way to Los Angeles, in coach: The Wedding Planner. Ug. Actually, don’t tell anyone, but I kinda like the J Lo. It could have been worse. $4. The meals are a LOT better. I had a choice of either a hot ham and turkey sandwich, with an Asian noodle soup, or a green salad with chicken. I had the sandwich, and the soup was pretty damn good for being served on an airplane. In fact, it would have been pretty damn good anywhere. But since most of the airline food is no better or worse than the Budget Gourmet meals that I occasionally eat, coach food doesn’t bother me. I only give this $5. Ahhhhh..hot steamed towels, before dinner. I give this…a big fat 0 on the dollar scale, but a 10 on the "stupidity" scale. Who cares! Linen napkins with your meal. Another fatty. OK.fine.whatever.this, and the towels, $10. Choice of your better wines. This might be important, it might not. The wine you usually get in coach comes with a screw off top and instructions on the label: Serve Over Ice. In first class, the attendants walk around with a fine bottle of wine, topping off your glass. A nervous flyer? Six bucks a glass. Already took a Valium before you left the house? Zero dollars.don’t mix Valium with alcohol, especially in a sealed metal tube hurtling through the atmosphere. You’re just asking to get handcuffed with a zip tie. All drinks, including alcohol, are free. You might think that this would be worth a lot of money, if you count how many beers you could drink in three hours (remember, you can start drinking as soon as you sit down, while the 200 passengers in steerage are stowing their bags) and multiply that by $4, then you might come up with a big number. $25? $50? Not likely. It’s illegal to server an intoxicated passenger, and they’ll see me coming a mile away and cut me off at four or so. Let’s give this $20..no, $24. See previous paragraph. We already counted the wine at six bucks. Sooo…that’s $219. My flight was $525. The same flight, but first class, would have been $2000. That won’t cut it, unless your company is paying for it. Jerry’s (My stepdad. We call him Thunder Thighs, and he tries to laugh.) company should pay for it, because he’s at the executive level, and that way he won’t have to take any Vaseline on the plane. But, if you can afford it, and if you fly a lot, you can avoid a lot of annoyances. Airline seats are TOO SMALL! You could go seriously ballistic if you had to sit by the window, right by the jet engine and the loo, month after month. And the waiting at the ticket gate and to get on and off the airplane can be very annoying if you have to do it repeatedly. And, I imagine that you’re treated much better as a first class passenger. You did, after all, pay a substantial premium. That reminds me.I have to call Continental to see if I have enough miles for an upgrade! Did I leave anything out?
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